diff --git a/worlds/tunic/er_rules.py b/worlds/tunic/er_rules.py
index ee48f60e..2677ec40 100644
--- a/worlds/tunic/er_rules.py
+++ b/worlds/tunic/er_rules.py
@@ -762,7 +762,10 @@ def set_er_region_rules(world: "TunicWorld", regions: Dict[str, Region], portal_
     regions["Beneath the Vault Ladder Exit"].connect(
         connecting_region=regions["Beneath the Vault Main"],
         rule=lambda state: has_ladder("Ladder to Beneath the Vault", state, world)
-        and has_lantern(state, world))
+        and has_lantern(state, world)
+        # there's some boxes in the way
+        and (has_stick(state, player) or state.has_any((gun, grapple, fire_wand), player)))
+    # on the reverse trip, you can lure an enemy over to break the boxes if needed
     regions["Beneath the Vault Main"].connect(
         connecting_region=regions["Beneath the Vault Ladder Exit"],
         rule=lambda state: has_ladder("Ladder to Beneath the Vault", state, world))
diff --git a/worlds/tunic/rules.py b/worlds/tunic/rules.py
index 14ed84d4..aa69666d 100644
--- a/worlds/tunic/rules.py
+++ b/worlds/tunic/rules.py
@@ -114,7 +114,9 @@ def set_region_rules(world: "TunicWorld") -> None:
         or can_ladder_storage(state, world)
     # using laurels or ls to get in is covered by the -> Eastern Vault Fortress rules
     world.get_entrance("Overworld -> Beneath the Vault").access_rule = \
-        lambda state: has_lantern(state, world) and has_ability(prayer, state, world)
+        lambda state: (has_lantern(state, world) and has_ability(prayer, state, world)
+                       # there's some boxes in the way
+                       and (has_stick(state, player) or state.has_any((gun, grapple, fire_wand), player)))
     world.get_entrance("Ruined Atoll -> Library").access_rule = \
         lambda state: state.has_any({grapple, laurels}, player) and has_ability(prayer, state, world)
     world.get_entrance("Overworld -> Quarry").access_rule = \